Stain All Sides with TWP?

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Stain All Sides of the deck board with TWP?  – TWPStainHelp.com

When staining a deck using TWP, is it necessary to stain all sides of each board? Consider the reason for staining wood – to shield it from weather damage, which causes rot and decay. This can lead to an unsightly appearance and structural failure.

Wood that is exposed to the elements will experience constant changes. Wood swells as it absorbs water and moisture, then shrinks when it dries out. These constant changes begin to break down the cellular structure of the wood causing it to crack, split, and warp. Ultraviolet rays fade and discolor the wood leading to a neglected appearance.
To prolong the life of any wood structure, and help maintain its original appearance, it needs to be coated with a weather-resistant stain like TWP. However, because at least one side of the boards will not be as exposed to weather as the other sides, it is not necessary to stain all sides with TWP. The bottom sides of deck boards, for example, are not exposed to much water or UV rays.

The only reason to stain all sides with TWP would be for aesthetic purposes. On a second-story deck, having all sides stained with TWP would be more appealing. This is a purely personal preference. To stain all sides with TWP for appearance is going to be more expensive and labor-intensive. It would take double the amount of stain and time to stain the underside of a deck.

To ensure the wood is shielded from weather and will stand the test of time, staining with TWP is a good investment. To stain all sides with TWP is really only for appearance where applicable but certainly is not necessary. It is really up to the deck owner whether or not to stain all sides. Not doing so will not lend a hand to weather damage or shorten the life of the structure in any way.

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Ted Hodge
Ted Hodge

Can TWP 1500 be applied to porous outdoor tile, I spilled a bit on my patio and it looked great before I wiped it off.

Theresa
Theresa

I used TWP 100 and stained in July. A few of the boards look like they could use a bit more protection. Can i reapply before winter? Do I have to do any prep? I’m in Minnesota

Melissa Antonio
Melissa Antonio

What kind of sealer do you use after you stain your log home for a couple years. I found the color i want to stay with. I just need to deal it now.

 
Catherine McCabe
Catherine McCabe

We used TWP last year on our cedar pergola and now want to restain the floor of the deck with TWP. The pine is 5 years old and is peeling in some areas. We can strip and brighten using your products and sand if necessary. How would we know if we need to purchase any of the additives to help with the stripping? I would hate to get the stripper and then wish we would have bought the additives also. In your experience does the TWP last longer on cedar or pine? My husband wants to rip out this deck… Read more »

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Mike
Mike

Shelf life of TWP 100 Stain?

Roger
Roger

My deck is IPE Wood several years old. It has been professionally treated with TWP products last fall, one coat on a professionally sanded and prepped deck. The deck has total exposure to sun and rain. We live just north of San Francisco in Marin county. The deck color has faded. What is the best way to restore color to the deck?

 
Meg
Meg

Hello,
Last year I had a NH company stain my deck with Russet 206 in Massachusetts. I am fine with that but I want to put on a second coat this year and I only can find the 1500 series in Mass. Can you apply the 1500 series on a 100/200 series?

Robert
Robert

I have a pressure treated deck that I have stained every three years with 1502 for the past 12 years. It always does a great job. I have had to flip one board (curled on the ends). When I stained the deck two days ago this board did not darken up to match the others. I didn’t think to give it a wet-on-wet coat. Is there anything I can do now to darken it up a little?

Ravinatha R Buchupalli
Ravinatha R Buchupalli

Hello, Do you have a video or instructions that explain the wet on wet application? When the first coat is wet, how do you apply the second coat? Stepping on the first coat will result in foot marks. Correct?

 
Alexis
Alexis

I’m building a cypress deck now but I will not have access to below the deck to finish that side. Also how long would I wait?

TONY B.
TONY B.

I will be staining my cedar white shakes on my house. I need the 200 series samples, that your company recommends, Where can I get them ?
If it is stain by the 200 series does the white cedar skakes turn gray after a few years ?

Tony B.

Bobby D
Bobby D

Is it worth staining the backside of a 10 month old cedar fence that is facing a steep, tree covered hill? I’m in western Washington, so there is plenty of moisture, but I would expect minimal UV exposure based on the position.

 
Larry D Hunt
Larry D Hunt

My “covered” porch is treated pine, 10 years old, been stained once (6 years ago) and it extends around the entire circumference of my house. While it is covered, the outward edges received more rain and sun and thus take more abuse from the weather. I also have dogs that like to run on the deck. So I’m looking for the best protection I can get from rain, sun, and dogs. I know, that’s a lot to ask for. But the deck has weathered very well considering it’s mostly covered. I don’t really need a restore type product as I… Read more »

Jim Kasper
Jim Kasper

In late 2013 our deck was re-stained with what I was told was TWP + Radcon. Apparently a blend of what now would be TWP 1500 and TWP 200 (for more pigment). Local companies mention a mix/blend of 1500 and 200 from 80%/20% to 20%/80%. The concerns being that the more TWP 200, the longer drying time and the higher chance of pigment rubbing off. Comments?? P.S. I searched the TWPStain.com web site for Radcon and did not get any hits. P.P.S. Location is Northern California, SF Bay Area about 3 miles from the coast. Fair amount of daily sun… Read more »

Paul Master
Paul Master

Planning on using 1502 (Redwood) in California
Have sanded 40 year old redwood planks, will clean & prep using your product. I’m concerned that the old wood will be really absorbent. Do you suggest additional stain. Using your calculator which says 4 gallons, will 5 gallon suffice? Thank you

 
Tad
Tad

Is TWP good to use on unfinished outdoor furniture such as a cypress swing? Location SW Missouri.

Joe R Horvath
Joe R Horvath

When applying TWP 1500 stain to vertical boards and spindles should I work from top-to-bottom or bottom-to-top?

Ginny Freudenberger
Ginny Freudenberger

I have a 40 year old log home that was previously stained with CWF cedar color. It has darkened over the years and the wood looks dry. I am thinking to use your stain stripper and brightner combo then stain with TWP. I would like to lighten the wood as much as possible. Do you have any before and after pictures of log homes having used this product? How difficult is the stripper to use and how is it applied? Will it harm my patio which is attached to house.?

 
Ben
Ben

We are building a cabin and have used TWP Cedartone on new white pine siding. We are seeing mildew and mold on the wood and thought TWP prevented such. We have take a piece of scrape stained siding to the supplier who agrees that it is mold and mildew. We don’t understand why this is happening and what can be done about it. Can you advise?

Bill Brusky
Bill Brusky

On waiting 48 hours: I’m currently in a very limited window of opportunity to get stain on a prepared deck. If I wait 48 hours, we’re expected to have rain the evening of the day I want to stain the deck. I have a moisture meter for wood and I’m not afraid to use it. The deck has been drying well since washing. Do you know the moisture percentage that I should be looking for before applying stain? I’m guessing somewhere in the 5 to 12% range?

Paul
Paul

If I have TWP 100 series already applied on my deck but needs to be redone since it is starting to fade – what do I need to do prior to application? Just clean/brighten? or strip also?

 
John Haddock
John Haddock

can you ship 100 series to wisconsin ?

Mark Price
Mark Price

Can you mix cape cod gray with clear to produce a lighter shade ?

Harjinder Bajwa
Harjinder Bajwa

I asked the question few days back, don’t see if the reply was posted. Installed Redwood deck, pergola and fence in my backyard (Bay Area, CA) a year+ back. This winter has been very wet and the wood needs to be stained. Will the CA Redwood or Redwood in the 1500 series work better and last longer? Thx. HB

 
Elliott
Elliott

Hey there. Dumb question here…I decided to order 3 samples to try out on my deck prior to buying 5 gallon drums. My deck is over a year old and I pressure washed it 5 days ago.
Question: Do I just brush on the 3 different colors of stain to see which one looks best? Captian Obvious here…but I plan on using a sprayer to handle the entire job so I wasnt sure if I should spray or brush it on.

D. Forstner
D. Forstner

Can Clear stain be used on a deck?

Frank Brandt
Frank Brandt

We finished 1 coat last year of Rustic Oak on a white pine log house. Can we make it darker and more brown by using a different color for our second coat? It looks lighter and more red than what we expected. Didn’t look like the computer color chip. For prep, prior to using TWP, we sanded the entire house to get the very old other (don’t know brand) stain off the logs.
Thanks, Frank in NC

 
Dany
Dany

Should stain be applied on the sides between the deck boards?

Debra
Debra

We are installing a new tongue and groove doug fir porch floor on our covered porch. We live in upstate NY. We did not pretreat the boards prior to install. Is it necessary to let the wood “cure” before we apply TWP stain? What TWP products do you recommend we use once we are able to treat the floor?

Henri Picker
Henri Picker

What is best way to remove TWP from aluminum ladder? Got it pretty good with Chapin Sprayer.

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

Try a graffiti remover that removes oil based products.

Henri Picker
Henri Picker

Anything I can spray on & let sit? I have a lot of stain to remove from the ladder.

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

Not that we know of.

Henri Picker
Henri Picker

Good call on the graffiti remover. Goo Gone Graffiti remover from Lowes did the job. Interesting that my local Sherman Williams did not know the answer to this question.

 
Kevin Chandler
Kevin Chandler

I am installing new Doug Fir tongue and groove porch flooring. Virtually everything I’ve read suggests staining all sides — do you disagree with respect to this wood and application? In other words, would it serve a purpose other than appearance given the underside will not be visible?

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

No point to stain all sides. Just the exposed sides.

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

No. You cannot just brighten then apply the TWP over a different brand. You would have to remove the Woodlife first.

Al Badalamento
Al Badalamento

I plan on using your TWP Cedartone 101 on my new 2×4 cedar deck boards. I would like to first use a preservative on all six (6) sides before I install the 2X4. I plan on using the following procedure before using your stain: 1. Remove the “Mill Graze” with your product Gemini or Wolman Deck and Fence Brightener. 2. Power wash the brightener off. 3. Use Woodlife Classic Clear Wood Preservative on all sides and three coats on the cut ends. 4. Install the boards to the joists. 5. Six (6) months later use a brightener then put use… Read more »

 
Teresa
Teresa

If there is a chance of rain in a day or two, would you advise covering my deck with something like plastic sheeting until there is a lower chance of rain. Summertime showers are hard to work around…0% to 10% to 60% to 20%…on consecutive days.

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

No do not cover. It needs airflow to properly cure and dry.

Teresa
Teresa

Thanks for the info! Will plan to go ahead with staining this weekend and hope I dodge the bullet on the rain! Excited about seeing the end result.

CBETTIN
CBETTIN

I live in WI. I have an existing cedar deck that I buff sanded to remove years of old stain. In June, we built a cedar addition to the existing deck. The new addition has rough cedar skirt board. I’m planning these steps: 1) Order Gemini cleaner and 1500 natural color stain. 2) Use Gemini cleaner on existing deck now and stain after drying. 3) Stain new skirt board now. 3) Wait until October to stain new cedar addition after cleaning with Gemini cleaner so it’s protected before winter. What do you think? Finally, can I stain new cedar lattice… Read more »

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

You don’t you just do it all at once in the Fall. Much easier. It should not damage the spindles but not all spindles are made the same so always test first to see if there is a reaction. The spindles without a clear coating on them may have an issue.

CBETTIN
CBETTIN

Ok, thanks. Is 1500 the correct choice?

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

Yes

CBETTIN
CBETTIN

I prepped my deck with Gemini 1 & 2 following the directions. The new cedar has some blotchy spots. I’m wondering if this is the product or did I not get up all the weathered wood or mill glaze. Should I reapply Step 1 to get a smoother finish before staining? Do I need to use the neutralizer/brightener again? Can I spot spray the blotchy spots or would you recommend I spray the whole area? Thanks!

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

Can you post a picture? More then likely you did not clean it all off.

CBETTIN
CBETTIN

These are an older section of the deck. The shadows make it hard to see. I had posted this same question on the general Q & A first before I found our thread and that person told me to re-clean the new decking, so I did. It seems that there are a lot of fibers visible after the newer wood dries. I’m just not sure what to expect and when it’s clean enough. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

Are you pressure washing or scrubbing after applying the deck cleaner? It looks gray still like you are not removing the oxidized wood cells.

CBETTIN
CBETTIN

There was a lot of residue during the cleaning process. I scrubbed it several times and rinsed numerous times both scrubbing and spraying.
The wood is a nice cedar color when wet, but is drying to a very light color. I just thought it was the brightening agent. I’ve followed the directions, so not sure what to think.

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

You might need to use a pressure washer after applying the cleaner as it seems form the picture you are not removing all of the oxidized wood cells while scrubbing. Can you reapply to the email you get with a few more pictures via email instead of here so we can have a better look. Also take a picture with the wood wet in one area. Has your deck ever been sealed before?

CBETTIN
CBETTIN

Did you get the pictures I sent by e-mail? I had to send in three e-mails because of the size of the file.

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

No we did not get them.

CBETTIN
CBETTIN

I just sent them again by replying to the e-mail.

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

We are not getting them. Please upload here instead. Sorry for hassle.

dot
dot

stupid question. I ordered a 5 gallon can am ready to start. How do I open the can?

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

You pry up the tabs on the side of the lid with a flat screwdriver.

 
BMcT
BMcT

Looking to add non-skid to some old fir planks to be used as a walkway. I have sanded the boards & will clean & brighten. Using a granular non-skid additive. Thinking of doing a wet on wet application with the non-skid added with the second coat. Should I premix the non-skid in w the TWP 1500 or sprinkle it on as I go?
Thanks,
Brian

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

It will not work. TWP is a penetrating stain. You need a filming stain/paint for a non skid additive to work.

BMcT
BMcT

Good to know! Thanks

Brad
Brad

I am going to stain a 6 month old deck that is made from pressure treated pine. Should I use TWP100 or 1500 series? I do not understand differences/benefits of one over the other.

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

What state do you live in?

Brad
Brad

west texas

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

Use the 100 Series. The main difference is VOC compliancy.

Brad
Brad

ok thanks,..only one coat correct? will pressure washing be sufficient for this 6 month old covered deck, or should I use wood cleaner

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

Deck cleaner and pressure washing. Only one coat.

TWPStainHelp
TWPStainHelp

You could do that or most would just spray the lattice with a pump sprayer. Much easier.